ke tails for hunters?

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~Christina~

I also hate his skimpy tail.

They are almost a requirement at the Paint shows it seems, and it is not uncommon for them to ll out in the ring /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif I would be very careful about pursuing that option. BTW, I also think they tend to look ke.

Tami Thurston of Tails by Tami in Tarboro, NC - she used to make tails for a lot of the big QH guys, not sure if shes still doing it or not. She also used to tie tails in - again, not sure if shes still doing that.

Nothing is foolproof to a talented fool.

As a hunter rider who also showed Saddlebreds for a while I can tell you that NO 5-gaited or 3-gaited shaky-tail goes in the ring without one. I think the ke look everyone is talking about has to do with the ct that we as a discipline are just kind of catching up to the trend of ke tails--Im not really pro or con other than to say if you are going to do it, spend the money and the time to do it right. Otherwise it looks like someones 6 year old tied it in. Despite the things I didnt like about showing Saddlebreds (a whole diffent thread) I can say that their tails always looked gorgeous and they were 95% ke--its just a matter of learning how to do it--best of luck! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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I should say his tail isnt really horrible, but at my barn Im surrounded by horses with awesome tails, so George is stating to get a complex. /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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A really nice tail that will look and feel natural because it is REAL HORSE HAIR would cost close to $800-$1000.

He is a red bay like Ruby, but his tail is jet black. /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Hey personally i LOVE the ke tails and I have used them on my horse before...I actually like the fuller look and yes they do look ke but i think the horse looks more elegant that way!! and ke tails are NOT illegal LOL or TONS of people would be fined for doing this...

Just like anything else, some of these will be better than others. But you can tell by looking at the site. I am quite satisfied with the tail I recieved from the first link. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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This is exactly my problem with tail socks etc. It seems if they are not really well taken care of, or if the horses hair is naturally brittle, the stress of having the sock attached causes alot of hair to break off. So you are left with half a nice long tail, and half a short yearling tail.

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I think they look ke also, and just seem like theyd be a bigger hassle than they are worth.

Ruby never had her tail braided cuz she would ring it, and it looked too skinny. One day we decided to do hunters at Menlo on her, horse forelocks and we borrowed a ke. Now I wont go without it. The tail (no one will believe me, unless youve seen it) made her go better. She had a very bouncy hind end, and the tail made it look flatter, which was very nice, because it was a little distracting. So, I am all for ke tails, in ct the majority of the hunters at our barn wear em, the majority of hunters out there wear them! They can look ke, but if you get a good one they dont! Most people dont think that Rubys is ke....You just have to get one that doesnt make the tail HUGE, if its too big, get your braider to thin it out, they can make sure that it looks ok.

~Christina~

as for swishy tails..weight works but so does having the tail blocked b4 u show, my trainer did that w/my friends horse for WIHS &OCKQUOTE class=ip-ubbcode-quotefont size=-1quote:/fontHROriginally posted by Bumpkin:

A Bit More Tack in Raleigh, NC - has those with the hole in the top

Personally my tail theory is less is more, no gadgets, no combs only hand picked while my horse is drying from a bath.

My horse has a not so great tail, and i was thinking of buying him a ke tail. Is this not necessary for the hunters or Eq? Where would be the best place to buy one? The tricky thing is my horse is grey and his tail isnt prefectly white, so would I have to have one custom made. Is this a waste of my money, or is is better so that it will look like he has an ok tail?

And I have thought perhaps that extra wt would make a difference.

at breed shows. EVERYONE uses them. Its like.. going to the ring without a bridle. (I was going to say underwear, but in light of certain threads..)

-Amanda

I just thought that sounded too funny, for some reason!!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

And, yes, I believe they are legal.

Anyway, just like anything else, ke tails vary greatly in price depending on the quality of the tail that you order.

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I think that they cost about $200?? My friend who braids charges an extra $5 or so to put them in when she does tails.

When Cool lived in a paddock/stall combination with lots of places to catch a tail, I kept his tail in a tail bag. You would braid the end of the tail and then loop a velcro strap through the top of the braided part. It kept the tail from catching on stuff and also kept it from bleaching out. I havent bagged it since hes lived in a box stall and it looks basically the same. Since hes a dressage horse, I periodically bang an inch or so off the end. This is a TB.

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I believe ke tails are illegal in hunter conformation and hunter breeding. (If youd like I could go find the rule and be sure?)

the people that i work for used a ke tail on one of their horses in the equ and hunters at indio. Its totally legal to use one and makes horses with no tail look much better.

As for ke tails being the easy way out, just like some people have really thin hair, some horses have really thin tails(the entire appaloosa breed). Some times it has nothing to do with care.

I think ke tails look just that- FAKE.

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Fake tails can be a LIFE-SAVER. A kid at my barn tried a irly well known (in this zone at least) pony a few years ago at a winter circuit. The groom walked the pony over and its tail was in a mud knot. Or so we all thought. Turned out the ponys tail was torn off or eaten off or something drastic--he really didnt have one anymore. But youd never know! The ke tail looked SO real that I had never known it was a ke tail until they told us (when our kid tried it) even after watching the pony go and win for many shows. Obviously the pony was not going to be pinning well in the pony hunters w/o a nice looking tail.

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As for looking ke, ke tails that cost $200 are going to look ke. Sometimes a blend of not real hair glued to a post.

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Anyways, it was funny...the trainer said (to my trainer, he comes with the tail included...

That is funny!

You can get good ones from Champion Tails, but a lot of tack stores carry the basic colors now...grey shouldnt be tooo hard since most grey tails have enough different colors that they fit...We got my sisters hunter a new tail from Champion tails, and his tail is weird, they did a good job soo.....I dunno, Christina if you really want to know, IM me, I can tell ya where my mom got Kings. Rubys we bought off someone, because it was obviously good luck =) Hers is special, she is so redish brown that hers is black with some redish color in it....haha, but thats another story..

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thin tail and it does not ever matter what you do, your horse will never have a thick beautiful tail. Speaking from personal experience.

Ok I will explain the problem with Elliots tail....bushy nice on top.

When I see horses with the ke tails I have noticed that the ke part doesnt flow with the natural part as the horse moves. It hangs and looks ke. One horse I was watching over fences seemed to drag the ke part over the rails. I thought, wow, if that tail freakishly wrapped around the pole like a bullwhip it could catch and drag down, freaking out the horse, but of course that never did happen. I just like the natural look. Someone posted about their WB not having a full tail. My filly is coming four and I have cut her tail twice already to keep it from touching the ground. It is beautiful but not thick. I am an older rider and I remember when tails were actually pulled to thin them out! The overly thick look was not considered beautiful

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Since Elliot and Ruby are related, it sounds like they also have the same tail swishy thing going on.

My vorite tail story was with a dressage horse that my trainer bought from a high-end dealer in Germany. Beautiful tail when they looked at him. When he got here, it turned out that his actual tail was a bit longer than his dock and pretty awful looking.

Nothing is foolproof to a talented fool.

~Christina~

Here are some links to sites that do tails. I ordered my paints tail from the first one. And one the thing about how Georges tail isnt white, none of them have white tails. So keep in mind that when they make white tails, they make them horse white. lol. But I know that the first place will do custom and the 2nd place is all custom.

For the switches - there are several different types of tails out there - some are easier to tie in and look more natural than others. Most have some type of knob at the top with two braided horsehair ties. (I believe AQHAs rule is that you have tie horsehair to horsehair - I could be wrong, but that stands out in my mind for some reason) If you have a horse that has a really thin tail, these tails can be harder to hide - meaning its hard to hide that knob at the top. There are some that hake tails for hunters?ve a knob with a hole in the middle and no ties. To tie these in, you simply braid a section of hair from deep in the center of the tail, run the braid through the hole so that the knob is right up against the dock of the horses tail, then tie several knots in the braid. They used to have tails that had a leather piece at the top with ties. The hair was sewn onto this leather piece and then you wrapped that leather piece around the innermost portion of the tail and tied it in. I havent seen those in a while. Dont tie the tails in where they hang to the ground or almost touch the ground - thats a common mistake thats made. If you do this, its very easy for your horse to step on the tail and rip it out when backing up. We normally hang ours so that the bottom of the tail hangs at or just above the fetlocks.

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Fake tails can ll out and they can look ke -but usually thats a result of the person tying/putting the tail in. There are two types of a ke tail - a tail switch and having a tail hand tied in.

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My horse has a not so great tail, and i was thinking of buying him a ke tail. Is this not necessary for the hunters or Eq? Where would be the best place to buy one? The tricky thing is my horse is grey and his tail isnt prefectly white, so would I have to have one custom made. Is this a waste of my money, or is is better so that it will look like he has an ok tail?

From the end of the dock down you have about 50 longish to hock ht scraggly, and I mean scraggly hairs.

When tying a tail in, the person will take individual pieces of horse hair and tie them to individual pieces of your horses tail. This takes a long time and cost a good amount - but if you take care of them properly, false horse tails they last a long time and unless you pick through the tail, you wouldnt know the difference. Big thing here is care - you cant just run a comb through these tails - you need to use your fingers and pick the tail apart.